华楠：这节课，Martti Malmi 会跟我们谈谈加密货币市场的未来发展，以及2028年的区块链会不会成为第三代互联网？

Martti：Ok, third generation internet, sounds quite different from our current generation internet. So maybe it could be something like a system where people use cryptocurrencies to buy and sell X and people would have the incentive to set up a X for the communication. Imagine you could have harness the amazing incentive of bitcoin mining for something actually X your X useful, like setting up connections in underserved locations. That would be interesting.

第三代互联网，听起来跟我们现在的互联网很不一样。可能它会像一个能够让人们使用加密货币自由买卖的系统，人们会有动力建立交流平台。想象一下，你可以利用比特币这个来使自己的东西变得有用，能卖钱，比如在缺少医药的地方开设业务点，你一定会充满动力。这就很有趣。

导语：那么你是如何看待如今世界上的加密货币市场的？

Martti：I guess we are seeing the same marvel birth pattern as we have seen so many times before. We had the peak last year around, now it's going down for some time, and then hopefully up again.

 我认为我们正在见证一个神奇的产生模式，如同我们多次见过的那样。大约在去年我们见证了顶峰时刻，现在有些跌落了，不过很可能还会起来的。

导语：据我所知，你曾经持有一千多枚比特币，不过你卖出了。你怎么看现在的比特币价格呢？太高还是太低？

Martti：The price is based on supply-ending more and it's the right price I must say. Yeah, but I mined over 1,000 blocks on my CBU so I had over 50,000 bitcoins at some point. So everyone has their regrets in life. But the important things in life are something completely different from being a billionaire.

价格更多是由供应端决定的，我得说这价格是合理的。我曾有一千多个区块，所以曾一度有五万多个比特币。只能说每个人的人生中都会有几件后悔的事。不过人生中重要的事可不是做什么亿万富翁。

导语:你怎么衡量中国的区块链应用和区块链公司？

Martti：I have seen a lot of Chinese new platform tokens or new block chains being set up in China. I guess there are a lot of bitcoin startups in China as well. But maybe I just haven't heard of them. So the image I have of Chinese scene is maybe more focused on the exchanges on the trading and speculations and these new platforms of smart contracts, the new kinds of consensus mechanisms.

我见过很多在中国设立的新的平台代币或新的区块链。我才还有很多比特币的新公司。只是我没听过而已。所以我对中国这边主要可能更关注交易和投机，以及这些新的智能合约平台和新的共识机制。

导语：马迪，这是你第一次来中国。来之前你对中国，中国人，以及中国文化有什么期待和想象吗？

Martti：Well there are 200 Chinese students on the campus where I used to live, so I had some conduct with Chinese people before I came here. So I had some expectations. I even had two Chinese roommates at one X. They are making great food. A lot of Chinese food. Chinese people are very friendly, a bit noisy but friendly compared to X people maybe. And I am quite surprised by their reception on getting here because it hasn’t been like this anywhere else. I feel like celebrity here.

我以前住的校区大概有200个中国留学生，所以来中国前我就与中国人有过一些交流。所以我会有一些预期。我之前还有两个中国室友，他们做饭很好吃，都是中国菜。中国人很友好，他们有点吵，但是很友好。我来这里的时候被接待的人们惊着了，就好像我是明星一样，在别的地方是没有这样的热情的。

导语：你怎么看去中心化的加密货币交易？未来它会消灭中心化的传统货币吗？

Martti：If X makes decentralized currency exchange actually work, he is going to capture a large market. It would be invaluable to have exchange with no central parties or no counterpart risk rather, no risk of losing your money in HUX. Bitcoin has a troubling history of things like X or other exchanges getting hacked. And decentralized exchange would make things better. We have something like Stella and Ripple. They are not from the most decentralized side of things, but they have this fairly decentralized markets for different kinds of tokens and I am interested especially in seeing how Stella plays out in that regard.

如果X能让去中心化的货币交易运作起来，他就能获得大片市场。同没有核心团体或没有相关利益的人进行交易是没有价值的。不用担心失去财富。比特币有它的黑历史，比如交易被黑客攻击。去中心化会改善这点。我们现在有Stella和Ripple. 它们不是最去中心化的，但是就不同的代币而言，它们有去中心化的市场。我很有兴趣看看Stella如何发展。

华楠：下节课，Martti Malmi 会与我们说说，他是如何看待EOS的。

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